Hawglips tss. Here's the 1 oz 20 ga TSS x steel load at 30 yds.
Hawglips tss. 25oz of tss 9’s in a tps wad and 3” euro/Cheddite hull/primer. 079") & up @ 17. If you purchase TSS shot from him, he’ll be more than happy to give you his tested reloading recipes. Post by hawglips » June 17th, 2013, 12:38 pm. 4 ft-lbs/sq in, 2. Go on the internet and search “reloading TSS,” and you’ll run across Hal in many forums under the name of HawgLips. Apr 2, 2022 · This last week was my first experience with TSS for turkey. The 410 is actually a better platform for duck loads with tss. Hawglips (Hal Abbot) has been selling TSS shortly after Kyle Smith stopped selling his handloading kits. 00 per pound. Reply Like. More than enough pellets and penetration with 1/2 oz of TSS #9 shot. Imo, I've tried several variations of that load with different balance of TSS and steel and HW15 shot, and the original is still the best duplex load of all of them. My buddy said the full was to tight so he shot it thru his modified. Apr 17, 2022 · Jager11 Discussion starter. He answered a hundred for me when I got started. Ballistic Products, Inc 20015 75th Ave N Corcoran, MN 55340 Business Hours: M-F 8:30AM-5PM Mar 13, 2016 · Not turkey related but I got some TSS from hawglips and loaded 1oz of 9. May 11, 2015 · You can reach Hal Abbott, Hawglips on this site at: Access International Inc 4901 Collard Patch Lane Garner, NC, 27529 919-662-8138 I use #7 or 6. He requests you keep his load data confidential. Jul 8, 2011 · 20 ga TSS combos. I would say a good HWT 7's pattern would go 150 in 10" circle and 150ish in the 20" circle. 3364 posts · Joined 2010. Albeit pricey, Tungsten Super Shot loads far outshine anything else on the market, including lead and steel. You can make a similar load with 0. Sep 21, 2021 · Would like to see the pressure about 2000 to 2500 higher for more cold weather stability. 09/08: Julien. Save Share Reply Quote Like. com BBB - #9 @ 15 - 16 grams/cc $44/lb 1-5 lbs or $32. This enables one to greatly increase the performance of a typical big bore shotgun, or to go down in bore Feb 26, 2021 · Amazing how many people reach out to Hal from all across the country. #bco #bluecollaroutdoors #tsshere is my fbi grade ballistic gel test comparing the penetration of tss shot sizes of #8's #9's & #10's at 40 yardsthe setup:fr Dec 29, 2022 · I’m not sure how relevant this is but the best 12 gauge pattern with tss I’ve ever saw was with a hand load I loaded (hawglips recipe) coming out of a archaic looking mossberg 835 that was bought the first year they made them and looked like it’d been drug more than carried and the boy was using a old primos jelly head choke. Hawglips data is 110gr TSS + 274gr of steel, but in a fed hull which has a significantly less volume than the cheddite. SX3 with Kicks modified choke. 5 - 18. gophert Gobbler Nation Posts: 1448 Aug 26, 2015 · Hawglips that sounds like very good load with tss shot. Having 160 #7 TSS pellets in Mar 7, 2023 · Wondering if anyone can supply info on where to get tss, and possibly a good recipe for 20ga 2 3/4 shells. Feb 13, 2021 · I am looking for a reload recipe for 20 gauge tss for turkey I have #8 tungsten and my daughter will be shooting 2 3/4 in shells. That 110gr of TSS takes up so little space, it is basically a 3/4oz of steel (common for 2 3/4" 20ga) with the equivalent of a 1/8" spacer of TSS. 91 to reload just for the shot. Feb 2, 2017 · It fits because the lilgun takes up less space than the Asteel. Dec 31, 2022 · 1400 fps TSS #8 shot gets 2. Jan 23, 2024 · That is a decent price, but I purchased 11 lbs from Hal Abbot (Hawglips) for $443, including shipping. 10. 30 oz of tss or more fit in a csd100 wad using steel load data (33grain of steel powder, Longshot is an option as well. Would be loading for some 12 and 20 Dec 27, 2021 · I have seen hawglips in a old post compare the energy and penetration depth of #9 tss and BB steel in a duplex load as fairly similar. Apr 25, 2014 · Slotracer; I am ordering out 4 lbs of TSS 8. Federal Heavyweight shot taken out of the Federal Heavyweight 12 ga 3-1/2 shells is about $25. Being dense and hard it patterns great. He is always willing to share loads and advice and I'm grateful. Search for hawglips, aka Hal Abbot. There are several importers/sellers of TSS who have developed and pressure tested loads that they will supply to you when you buy shot. Little heads up tristar is going to have a viper g2 semi auto comming out in 410 here in after first of year. So getting a 1-1/4 oz 2-3/4" shell with 15g/cc shot in it for just 9 cents more, is a great buy. Nov 27, 2018 · I get my TSS shot from Hal also he goes by hawglips on Tungsten Super Shots forum and Gobbler Nation Forum. I have a youth 870 20 gauge set up with a Carlsons TSS choke for my 8 year old son to use. rsi does have hw18 that is same. We practiced and patterned it with dove loads through the TSS choke. So, we reversed the order and put the TSS on top, giving him the much tighter pattern he was looking for. 75oz steel and 0. Though now it is used to refer to Hal Abbott's (Hawglips) 18g/cc shot which until very recently was the only 18g/cc shot available here in the U. 35" gel penetration TSS 9s (smaller than standard - the ones they were shooting above) Dec 24, 2020 · If you buy your tss shot from one of the early reputable dealers you will get a list of equipment needed and specific load components. You can use rifle primer trays to count the bigger pellets very quickly. As far as mixing steel with tss it's needed to get the pressure up and get the tss pattern opened up with the lighter loads of tss. There is a TSS thread and a number of guys are loading tungsten in sizes 8 & 9 for turkey in 12 & 20 ga. If you want to step it up to 18g TSS. It's real dense 18 g/cc compared to lead at 10. I can't imagine what 2 1/4oz will do to a turkey noggin. Reply. These have a belt like that seen on the ITX shot. Aug 7, 2020 · TSS Loads: Packing a Punch. Sep 25, 2019 · Well, TSS #11s may be tiny (870 pellets per ounce), but they will deliver that same 1 inch of penetration out to 53 yards 18% more range. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. The TSS should have more velocity than the steel almost immediately due to it's higher density, allowing it to move ahead unimpeded, essentially two shot clouds probably. He goes by “hawglips” on here. All the patterns were shot with a full choke except for one shot with a modified. Apr 16, 2023 · Most TSS loads are loaded with steel shot wads. 51/lb 6 lbs or more They also manufacture spheres from 2mm (. Hal, aka Hawglips, has been importing it and making it available to OG members. The difference is lead cuts and drags feathers too which will reduce the lead shot's real world penetration on a bird, tungsten goes right through feathers because of its small surface area and inability to deform. The denser the shot, the better it retains velocity, the harder it hits, the smaller the shot size you can use, the tighter it patterns—and the better it drops quail, dove, woodcocks, and grouse. 555 choke. Jan 7, 2011 · They were blown to smitherines. TSS shot is about $45. 690, . My Pb loads will take care of any dove, quail that I run into down south. Nov 23, 2003 · The rule with loading TSS is to use a recipe that has been tested by a ballistics lab for pressures. In addition, Hal will send you tested recipes. The TSS loads are far superior to any load I have ever shot on paper. I’ve seen Darkthirty’s patterns and shots with the 28’s and it’s down right impressive. I would like to get into loading TSS turkey handloads. "at 40 yards Steel BB 72/oz, 758 fps final velocity, 305. It is perfect for the 410 Bore, 28ga, and 20 guage. 2025 Toyota 4Runner_ How To Overland. Hawglips is a good guy to deal with and the only person I buy from. Less chance of cripples, and leaves them in amazing shape for taxidermy. I have since revised one of his recipes for loading in a Win AA -28HS after hunting with several sizes of TSS this past year. These loads have been safety tested for pressures, and also for performance. ). i shot the rsi hw18 7. Not sure that I can get it all together and ready before this Spring. %PDF-1. 3/8 oz of that stuff would be plenty for most situations. Jun 29, 2020 · Can anyone steer me into the right direction to find some TSS reloading data 12ga 23/4? Impossible to find in Canada . . 5 shot Nov 14, 2010 · Hi - I recently found another source for tungsten shot besides TSS. Grouse is the other big bird. When I spend the big bucks for TSS shot I would rather have some overkill in my loads and not lower the shot charge and shot size enough to where the load barely gets the job done. And the efficiency of tss is still fly 4/6 shovelers at 80-85 m. Hawglips (Hal) on here is where you buy it and he will give you the load data. Can't wait to give this a try. Tungsten Super Shot (TSS) has a 22% heavier density than heavyweight shot and a 56% heavier density than traditional lead shot. @hawglips I believe. Nice to have him right here in our backyard. Subscribe to get special offers. He also provides load data on the recipes he has had pressure tested and chronographed. 695, . Super-18 Tungsten Super Shot key to superior performance is the shot density. So your advantage is increased pattern density throughout the 20" circle. Hi oliver. It was a long while ago, but Sep 30, 2022 · As far as your loads, you’re loading way light. Apr 12, 2022 · Hello, new poster here but not a newbie in shooting and hunting sports. Aug 28, 2020 · If you loaded 3/4 oz of TSS shot and 1/4 oz steel shot with one pound of TSS shot you could load 21. 50" of gel penetration is recommended for killing big geese. Aug 26, 2020 · Article on "Hawglips" Post by decoykrvr » August 26th, 2020, 4:31 pm There is a nice article on Hal Abbot in the October 2020 issue of the NWTF's Turkey Call magazine. Goose Mar 15, 2020 · I have . IMG_7132 - Copy by Robert Morris, on Flickr Jun 19, 2020 · Never heard of hawglips. I shot my first "TSS" turkey with one of his 12 gauge loads back in 2012 and never looked back. He Sep 16, 2022 · Hawglips has the tss and the reciepes . Seems like I have read that w/ the TSS to start w/ the more open constrictions, since the Ulti-Mag has an overbored barrel similar to a 10 gauge. loads shot out of a Remington 870 and a Pure Gold . I’ll mix wads and primers all the time when loading target loads, but when it comes to loading tss, I follow the recipe exactly. 30" circle. Jul 12, 2024 · Hawglips ????? Jump to Latest (Super-18 Tungsten Super Shot "TSS") but last I spoke to him, he was still selling and providing data. Aug 28, 2019 · Many testimonials show that the TSS is the ultimate shot for hunting waterfowl. Jan 11, 2017 · no hw13 is rsi product not same as tss that is 18 density. Jun 5, 2017 · Also go to Tungstensupershots. Oct 11, 2015 · Hawglips recommends you put the HW or TSS at the bottom, and he mentioned he is pattern testing / experimenting on this. I'm interested in obtaining and loading TSS. Mar 9, 2015 · Hawglips is the TSS connection and has load data to get you started so shoot him a pm. You won't believe the ballistics. Nov 1, 2012 · Hal is the godfather of TSS hand loading. You have an invaluable resource on this forum in terms of acquiring shot and recipes. There are some inherent disadvantages of lead, but for Oct 11, 2015 · Hawglips recommends you put the HW or TSS at the bottom, and he mentioned he is pattern testing / experimenting on this. Remember with smaller gauges and TSS, you still want that bird at 40 or less. Aug 1, 2015 · hawglips said: With 8s (approx 250/oz) you would get 2. I had to change pretty much everything about the 2-3/4" recipe, and I still need to work on them some more before I'm comfortable, but they are looking good so far. Feb 6, 2022 · Hawglips pressure tested that load a couple years ago and calls it the Toasty load. 20" of gel penetration at 64. Oct 7, 2020 · Hal (hawglips) over on TSS Forum sells the 18 g/cc shot in basically all sizes and provides pressure-tested load data after you buy from him. He is a trusted and reliable source. With a 50% and 50% duplex load with TSS #9 shot "178 pellets" and 50% #2 steel shot "61 pellets" for a total of 239 pellets per shell, you could make 32 TSS duplex loads with one pound of TSS Feb 11, 2011 · marti - check out the Turkey Handloading & Reloading forum on oldgobbler. 5 size. Aug 19, 2014 · As for TSS that would be tungsten super shot which was the brand/company name of a commercially loaded 18g/cc shot which closed a few years back. No shortage of references to this Hal/Hawglips fella, but no website/contact info. TSS shot can make 28 ga and 20 ga shotguns out perform 12 ga 3" super fast steel shot loads on waterfowl and turkeys. Find a load online or from a reputable manufacturer, and follow their specs. I know what they will do to a mallard at 40yds out of a light mod comp-n-choke. A nice morning the 21st for the Mar 15, 2018 · A 1. Dec 6, 2022 · If you buy the TSS shot you can make reloads that make sense, instead having to shoot the loads that the manufacturers make. 25" penetration at 54 yds (1000', 32 deg), and have 157 pellets in the shell. as tss but they only have 7. TSS gives you the “punch” of lead shot with no harmful impacts on the environment. Reactions: TN Larry, Andy S Dec 21, 2012 · Hawglips , that is quite the pattern adding the TSS 9's , I assume you are loading those in a TPS wad ? TSS 9s (smaller than standard - the ones they were Dec 27, 2021 · Apex is 1oz steel 2’s under 0. It is 1/4oz of #9s and 235gr of #4s that runs at 1290fps. This 18 gram/cubic centimeter heavy weight Tungsten Super Shot (TSS) shot turns your sub guage gun into an extremely lethal weapon. Between shot, powder, wads and primers you just blew at least $75 on one box of shells, to much for me. My all-time favorite 12 gauge load is one of his. "Hawglips" recommended this as Pheasant will be my largest game. Feb 24, 2014 · Tss stands for tungsten super shot. With that ridiculous pellet count, and extended range, even half an ounce of TSS exceeds the pellet count of a full ounce of lead 8s AND kills farther out there, at least in theory. Read a bunch in the reloading forum here, Gobbler Nation, and Tungsten Super Shots. These were 1-1/2 oz. 5 shot size. In fact, all the loads I shoot have less recoil than lead turkey loads. Good luck. Thank you in advance I am very new to this. The intentional pattern disruption went way overboard. 4 %âãÏÓ 5010 0 obj > endobj xref 5010 136 0000000016 00000 n 0000003993 00000 n 0000004153 00000 n 0000011803 00000 n 0000011942 00000 n 0000012357 00000 n 0000012470 00000 n 0000012585 00000 n 0000013485 00000 n 0000013905 00000 n 0000014563 00000 n 0000015188 00000 n 0000015787 00000 n 0000016443 00000 n 0000016593 00000 n 0000017030 00000 n 0000017365 00000 n 0000017596 00000 n Sep 9, 2016 · I appreciate the testing efforts Hal puts into the TSS, but it gets a bit much dollar wise for the average guy. Here's the 1 oz 20 ga TSS x steel load at 30 yds. Two models carakote bronze like a400 and blued wood. 21/08: Remi. Figure going out and trying the 25 loads of even the 3/4 oz TSS and finding out you didn't like the load. I haven't had time to try a sandwich duplex (1/4 TSS on top, 3/8 oz steel in the middle, 1/4 oz TSS on bottom), but would be interested to see how that does. TSS shot is around 45% to 50% denser than lead shot so it holds it's speed and penetrates unbelievably good. Yes, it is expensive; but being able to use the same 28ga for ALL my bird hunting is nice. I’ve been loading it a few years and my performance is equal to or better than Apex. Sent from my typewriter. #1 · Apr 17, 2022. Lead has been king of the uplands since the dawn of black powder. With 1/2 oz of TSS #8 shot "125 pellets" and 3/4 oz of steel BBB pellets " 45 pellets" the total would be 170 pellets. 675, . 6 yards and has 125 pellets in 1/2 oz It looks like TSS #8 shot would be a better match to duplex with steel BBB shot. I've killed (well I can't say how many) turkeys with both 7 and 9 TSS in the past two seasons. 1-5/8 oz of TSS shot will fit in a 7/8 oz steel shot wad. 50" of 20% gel penetration is recommended for killing ducks and 2. I don't relish going to the pattern board without having a starting point, since my TSS Turkey loads are 3 1/2". A teal tonight 54 meter with a 24gr # 9 taken by laser. I tested some of hawglips' hand loads today and I am very impressed. 5oz load of TSS 9's will have 548 pellets. Tungstensupershots gets me nowhere. An average pattern of TSS in that payload would be 275 in 10" circle and 220ish in 20" circle. 5 and in the 10 ga 1- 1/8 oz @ 1350 For the 12 ga, and in 2¾" NO 3" or 3½" as it IMHO isn't required, 1 oz again @ 1350 fps. I was late getting on the TSS train, due to my own stubbornness, but now that I've boarded I'm very happy to be here. 5's in my 28 gauge. 5 sized in 20 gauge and 28 gauge with great results with saying that i like cost and holes that bigger sized hw13 six and fours put in birds along with energy that was transfered to birds over hw18 7. Jul 9, 2018 · I would go with a 1/2 oz load of TSS #9 shot in a 410. Aug 7, 2020 · If you’re interested in giving it a go, the foremost expert of handloading TSS is Hal Abbott. 18g/cc Tungsten Super Shot (TSS) from Prairiewind Decoys. TSS #7 shot is to big for shooting turkeys, TSS #9 shot will give you long range and way more pellets for killing turkeys, 1. On all of the TSS shells I have loaded I either weighed the shot charge or counted the big pellets to get the correct weight. He will supply tested recipes for all gauges if one buys the shot from him. Fascinating stuff. 5 grams/cc. Aug 29, 2024 · Penetration is penetration, be it lead steel or tungsten. Hard to believe a pellet so small has so much energy. I have been handloading rifle and pistol ammo for over 45 years and am a long time hunter, as well as former competition shooter. Apr 2, 2014 · For those you have been shooting TSS; You can reach Hal, Hawglips on this site at: Access International Inc 4901 Collard Patch Lane Garner, NC, 27529 919-662-8138 Oct 29, 2016 · EDIT2: So I googled "TSS shotgun shells" and just opened my eyes to a world that I didn't even know existed. Jul 18, 2012 · Post by hawglips » June 9th, 2017, 10:11 am Rockhound wrote: Any one have any super fast load data for the 20 or 12? I've got a nice 1624 fps 20 ga load, and a buddy (he doesn't post here) came up with a 1680 fps 12 ga load. May 17, 2020 · TSS is a more humane and ethical shot to shoot - period. Tommy is from middle TN. I use Hal Abbot (hawglips) as my vendor but Reloader and Shooter on gobblernation are both very knowledgeable and have excellent reps. com. Top. It's Tungsten Spheres out of San Diego, CA 858-693-6100 www. TSS is not something you want to run hot, but you want more than 7/8oz. Didn't even know that was a member name But that's good info. tungsten-spheres. Tss at 1500fps 9 penetrates the same as lead #2 at 1200fps. He also sells PT2090 wads (very popular 20 ga TSS wad). Hi Olivier I'm always on vacation in the southwest. 60 per pound. Dec 5, 2018 · I’ll also add that I’ve reloaded a ton of shells. Dec 15, 2017 · Like Darkthirty and hawglips said straight Tss is where it shines to me especially in the sub gauges but the duplex is a viable way to save money. TSS # 6. He has a load for every situation and he usually makes time to answer questions. We then went hunting and I put in a 3" TSS in the gun and didn't tell him. 7 g/cc or heavy at 12 g/cc. It's made my turkey hunting more rewarding and fulfilling. The patterns are on 28 gauge roofing May 22, 2019 · A 1-1/4 oz HW13 load would cost $1. S. 5, 7 or 8 for the bigger birds and #8 or 9 for the smaller ducks. It's like Thor's hammer hittin'em. 3 duplex-ed loads compared to 16 one ounce TSS loads. 710. Should be very good shotgun at reasonable price. He absolutely hammered a big tom at 30 yards with it. If anyone has any insight on this, please let me know. 14/08: Pascal. Oct 30, 2015 · Again, I'm not the originator or expert user on any of it--that's really Lostknife, Hawglips, toasty, BugDoc, Hammernhonkers, and some others--but for SEARCHING for the "good info" threads, using my name in the search will be useful as I've searched and read backwards years and years worth of posts on everything TSS and duplex, and made posts May 17, 2009 · I went out yesterday to test the first batch of 3" TSS handloads at 40 yards. Cause it's so dense you can drop down in shot size and get the same penetration such as #4 lead. Sep 16, 2008 · Senior Member. avyx tlfokzg gdjg epxoyd qkq teqdp uovi rugwg dizbbhpn lewhuzv